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11/5/10 - Money Talks and Silver Walks. Team Moon Tan Hunt video.
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Noah and I came up with a new idea on where to find goodies last night. However. The only way to do it. Is extreme Moon Tanning. We hunt in an Urban Area. And, if you wanna hear that old money talk. You need to be able to hear. So, we set out late after traffic was minimal. Foot traffic was still high as it was a Friday night. So, naturally we got a few drunken college loud mouths here and there. Making dumb ignorant comments. However, it was mostly positive. Lots of questions by passers by. "Do you really find treasures with those"? If treasure is what they wanna call it. Then, yeah! We do. And we have not been at this hobby very long. Anyway. Last night. As I was saying. We discovered a new improved method of how we hunt. And we put it to the test. And it did not take long before it paid off. The first find of the night was a small gold pin with a Norman Cross on it.
Once we reached the area we wanted to hunt. Almost instantly old coins started popping up. As I dug a wheat cent i noticed Noah and Matt huddled together. I said to Holly, hes got a good target. Lets go. So, we moved down the block a bit to step in just as Noah popped a plug with a HUGE silver laying perfectly flat deep in the ground. It looked like a 1941 Walking Liberty. Camera rolling. We popped it out. And, it was!
1941s Walking Liberty Half Dollar- Cleaned.

The excitement of this find had the whole group fired up. We had to take a break to calm down. So, we ended up going to get something to eat. Looked at our finds. Talked detecting. And about how the new method of detecting seemed to be working. So after munching down some cheap tacos and cane sugar Mexican cokes. We hit it for another 30 minutes. And literally. Right out the door where Noah and Matt parked. Noah found a 1942 Mercury Dime within 10 minutes.
After that Noah and Matt called it a night. And ended up taking off. Holly and I hunted for a few more mintues. Trying to fight the urge to fall asleep. Someone approached us. And asked us all about Metal Detecting. So, we ended up having a long chinwack about it. Sharing stories of finds. And that anyone can do what we do. If you have some patience. I took a few last swings. Digging up plenty of clad and some other crap.SHARE THIS POST VIA:
UPDATE: 1840's - ???? Spoon?
I dig this spoon a month ago. And I can't remember where! See. For some reason. My brain does not quite grasp onto things right away. So I didn't see a relic. I saw. Scrap copper. Today. I was thinking about this odd spoon. And realized. Wait a second. When have I ever seen a copper spoon? NEVER! UNLESS! Its an old plated spoon thats been in the ground a LONG time. Well. Turns out. I was right. I knew it was old. But i did not realize the Rogers Nickel Silver spoons began in the 1840's. The spoon reads. ROGERS NICKEL SILVER just under and behind the spoons head.
So. How old is this spoon. Take a good look at it. If it was silver plated. Someone did a poor job. I found an 1879 spoon this year. That still had 90% of its silver plating left. This Rogers Spoon has ZERO. Instead. It actually has a nice old copper patina to it. Its surprisingly flexible. As if it was pure copper. Or. The mixture of metals. Especially the zinc has long since decayed back into the soil. As zinc is a strong metal. And hard to bend even in thin strips. It is weak when it comes to acidic soil. So. I dunno. This relic is definitely old. How old....is anybody's guess. These are the real fun finds. As you have to really work hard to unlock its mystery. And date of birth and origin. Where as. Coins. Have it written right on them. Dont get me wrong. I LOVE coins. But I absolutely love relics and personal objects as simple as this ugly. Brown spoon. Unlocking their history is what makes them interesting and fun. Soooo. ANY IDEAS ON THIS SPOON? GOT AN ANSWER OR LEAD? PLEASE COMMENT!
Here is a picture of the name stamp in macro. Who knows. Something as simple as a variation of the stamp. Could tell a great deal.
THE LIPSTICK CONTAINER

Another interesting find. Was this amazing lipstick container found DEEP in the ground in the oldest part of town. We have never been able to ID it. In fact. the patina was so green and thick. We had to clean it up a bit. But not over clean it. We wanted to leave the rustic look to it. Once we removed the thick green layer. The engraving became visible. Very neat find! However. Its gone unnamed company wise. As, we can not read the writing on the bottom. And have no way to date it. Ideas?
Urban Archeaology,
ReplyDeleteThanks for reading and commenting on my blog.
http://silverandsilverplate.blogspot.com/
Sorry it took me so long to respond. Your item was made by a silver plate company but is not plated it is a unique alloy created by the company and was sold as a lower grade item that skipped the plating process. I looked at the pictures you posted and it just seems to have oxidized a bit in the soil. The pattern you have is a fairly common one that was made by many many makers and usually does not have a special name. It is called in almost all cases "plain" This pattern is so common that it is still produced today for stainless flatware. In most cases the pattern would help in dating but this one does not. This spoon could have been made anytime between 1830 and the start of WWII. Metal shortages would prevented it being made during the war and then stainless would have become more common as a material. In all likelihood this spoon was made between 1900 and 1930 like you guessed. Below is a post about nickel silver I wrote some time ago.
http://silverandsilverplate.blogspot.com/2010/04/nickel-silver-german-silver-alpacca.html
I hope this helps.
WOW! Awesome information! Thanks! Oddly. I had just noticed last night, the spoon is not copper at all. It has a tiny knick on the side and the metal underneath is silver toned. Its patina is very interesting. And I love it. To bad its so common. Would be easier to narrow it down. But, no worries. What you said makes perfect sense.
ReplyDeleteI will check out your blog post on nickel silver so I can learn a few things about it. Also. I have found a couple silver items. Both of which with out doubt have silver content. One I found out is 50% silver. And has pitting in it. Like you would find on copper coins that sat in a lawn that was heavily fertilized. Or, mixed with a metal that well, pits due to acidic soil. Any tips on that would be great.
Thanks!!
-Ryan
Ryan,
ReplyDeleteIf we can figure out a way to send or post pictures I would be more than happy to take a look at them. Silver is such a soft metal that in its pure form it is very delicate. I think this accounts for why coins wear down (though I know little or nothing about coins) However, when silver needs strength for example in spoons or holloware, they are made from sterling (or earlier coin). With sterling another metal is introduced to provide tis strength. Often this is copper that can over time could "dissolve" leaving pits. Or something like that, just guessing at this point.
The cool thing about your spoon is that even though the pattern is common finding one with that metal is becoming more and more uncommon. Spoons like these had a tendency to oxidize, were damaged by acidic foods, and were considered cheap and replaceable in their day. Because they are not "valuable" they were not preserved and I do not think that many survived. I often find them with the tips of the spoons worn from cooking wear and/or melting on a hot stove top. Using them to scrape the last bit of food out of a pot would wear them down.
R.E. Davis